Indo-Pak talks: Pakistani Insanity And Ours

Indo-Pak Talks. What a joke! Yet another one planned and abandoned. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the very definition of insanity. Now does this insanity run on both sides of the border or one is more insane than the others? Readers of this blog know where I stand on the issue but I will offer concrete arguments to show that Pakistanis have shown this insane proclivity of burning down their house in hopes that the fire extends to your house and burns your house as well.

Recently two men died in Pakistan within hours of each other. Hamid Gul (natural causes – twenty five years too late but so it is) and Shuja Khanzada – Home Minister Pakistani Punjab (in a suicide bombing). Hamid Gul is credited with the creation of Taliban (to control Afghanistan) and other terror outfits (to control India). Khanzada was yet another Army guy with political aspirations.

Now I watch clippings of Pakistani shows and news on YouTube. I would like you to know that there is a subculture of Indians digging for these clippings and posting it in YouTube to expose various Paki claims and show real Pakistani thinking (search Gurudev or Krishna KRP or Indian Cyborg or Desigyan etc. for these clippings). Watching a very popular comedy show with serious doses or political and social commentary featuring one of the comedy stars (these guys are virulent India haters) I saw yet another example of confused Paki thinking. First they mourned the passing of the terror master Hamid Gul. They extolled him like we do Netaji or FM Maneckshaw. Next they mourned and extolled Khanzada as someone who martyred himself fighting terrorism in Pakistan. Now I found that really rich. They mourned and extolled one guy who created the terrorist group (TTP - a splinter of original Taliban) that killed the other guy who they extolled as an anti-terror warrior. Is that insanity or what?

Hamid Gul created Taliban to create a strategic depth in Afghanistan in case of a war with India and then created other groups to kill India by a thousand cuts. Twenty five years later India is on its way to become an economic powerhouse with scientific and technological achievements to make even the developed countries envious (Mars mission etc.). Pakistan cannot even maintain their railways and continue to be the threatening beggar as far as economics are concerned. India is spreading its soft power the world over. Pakistan is down to China and North Korea as friends (even the Muslim countries do not like them). India has lost a lot of people in various terror attacks but Pakistanis have lost way more and continue to do so at the hands of their own creations. Yup. Their plan of hurting India is really working for them. Is that insanity or what?

They buy tea from Kenya when they have Grand Trunk road (or some semblance of it) from Kolkata to Lahore. They buy other raw material from us via third parties in middle east because they do not want to be seen buying directly from us. They have given shelter to Dawood Ibrahim and Tiger Memon who have created a real underworld in Karachi thereby compounding the problems of that city which burns worse now than it did in the past. Signs of insanity?

In another one of those aforementioned videos, a Paki commentator told Shashi Tharoor that we were a big country with a very small heart. Tharoor reminded him that they refused a gift of $25 Million for their flood victims but they refused and only accepted via the UN. A clear sign of petty mindedness. Only Pakistan has accused us of a lack of generosity. But Nepal, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Myanmar, Maldives, Sri Lanka and a whole host of developing world just loves us. Clearly the fault lies not in our hearts but in the intentions of Pakistanis. They refuse to mend their ways and want us to be generous. Yet another sign of insanity.

Nations take care of their self-interests and in that pursuit often rise above petty mindedness and egos. A hardcore Sunni Islamic country like UAE is willing to look beyond the alleged problems with PM Modi and sign an enormous deal with us. All of the Muslim world looks upon us as a friendly nation. But Pakistan cannot do so. They are too blinded by their insane hatred of India and Hindus (watch the above video) that they continue to work against their self-interest even if it means hurting themselves. A typical case of burning down ones house in hopes that the flames will burn the neighbor’s house as well. If that is not insanity then I don’t know what is.

Of course on our side, we keep setting up these talks. Whether they are under the pressure from international community or our own establishment it seems like our contribution to the insanity argument. What is the point in talking to Pakistani politicians knowing full well that their strings are being pulled by those who protected and lied to USA and the world about Osama Bin Laden even though they were existing on the dole from the USA? If the USA did not have any leverage as far as Osama was concerned, do we even have a prayer as far as Dawood is concerned? We could have equivalent of a smoking gun and the Pakis would brush it off. We should do enough to keep peace by practicing the Doval doctrine and call it cost of doing business. After all with the Chinese economy in peril, something has got to get through to the Pakistani establishment; cutting through the hitherto impenetrable fog of hatred. Of course if you watch the video of Tarek Fatah, it does seem like an impossibility.

Real Crime: Adil Shahryar For Warren Anderson

We wrote this a long time ago. We are reposting it in the wake of revelations made by Sushma Swaraj in Loksabha:

Hamara Mai-Baap Kaun Hai?

Youth Congress leader Sanjay Gandhi (left) and Smt Maneka's marriage register being signed by a witness Mohammed Yunus (right) as Prime Minister Indira Gandhi (2nd left) looks on, in New Delhi on August 1, 1974.

You need to know the following before I make my case. 

Adil Shahriyar, the son of Muhammad Yunus, who was almost a part of the Indira Gandhi family, and a mentor of both Rajiv Gandhi and Sanjay Gandhi, was tried in a US District Court by a jury, and convicted on an indictment of five counts ( including trying to blow up a ship, illegal possession of firearms and carrying them across State borders and drug trafficking) and sentenced in 1982 to 35 years hard labour in prison. 

All of the power of the GoI was thrown behind this criminal Adil but to no avail. Proximity to Gandhi family does not carry any weight in the USA. But then some thing happened which was essentially godsend i.e. Union Carbide gas leak that killed over 3000 people. This tragedy presented a great opportunity for the Yunus family. The Union Carbide CEO Warren Anderson was in an Indian lock up under the purview of the Gandhi Family faithful Arjun Singh. Anderson was released and given the VIP treatment out of India. On the other end, Ronald Reagan, the leader of the most powerful nation (at least at that time) took time out of his very busy schedule and pardoned Adil Shariyar’s sentence. From what I know of the US pardon system, small time criminals like Adil do not get noticed by a President. The implication is obvious. A deal must have been negotiated. Safe passage for Warren Anderson for the pardon of Adil Shahriyar! Can you fathom the implication here? Maybe India was going to let Anderson go anyway. But someone at that time of extreme tragedy was thinking of this criminal. That in it’s own right is mind numbing.

Corruption is not new to Congress. There is no shortage of examples of that. In fact, it has become institutionalized. People like A Raja would be drawn and quartered in most countries. In India, the man is still enjoying fruits of his crimes.

Prof. Vaidyanathan has hit another one out the park with his latest. He correctly points out that there are people in the GoI to take care of criminals close to the powerful families. He writes:Another example is more bizarre. Naga political and student groups have been starving the Manipuris for more than two months by blockading the state. Petrol sells for Rs200 per litre and everything is scarce. But the Centre is still requesting (cajoling/begging) Naga militants to lift the blockade. Now imagine what would have happened if it was the other way round: the Manipuris blockading the Nagas. It would not have continued for more than one day. The global Baptist Church would have created a ruckus and many delegations of leaders from Europe and the US would have rushed to India and our PM would have been forced to go to the north-east to make amends. But Manipur can starve since they don’t have a lobby.

In Delhi, we thus have a US lobby, a Chinese lobby (even unelectable Jairam Ramesh lobbies for Chinese businesses), a Middle Eastern lobby and, of course, a Pakistani Lobby. Obama’svisit reveals the power of the US lobby. It appears that in the last few days nothing of importance has happened in any part of the world. It’s just Obama all the way. Then there are lobbies for the IT industry, for pharma, for liquor barons, for global arms merchants — lobbies for everyone from Aruba to Zimbabwe.But the question he asks is : Who lobbies for India? Aam aadmi ka maai – baap kaun hai? He is right, in India the one thing that matters the least is the aam Indian. That is a sad commentary indeed!

The article can be read at: http://www.dnaindia.com/opinion/main-article_so-many-lobbies-in-delhi-but-none-to-bat-for-india_1464044

However a better researched article can be read at:

http://www.niticentral.com/2015/08/12/adil-shahryar-rahul-gandhi-328864.html

Mr. B Raman Was Right. Free Aseemanand, Sadhvi Pragya

I am a big fan of Late Bahukutumbi Raman who was known to those in the know or readers of “beyond news” kind of articles. The man was an apolitical spy who was really well informed and came through as an “India first” kind of patriot. He used to write op-ed pieces on a website saag.org which was later renamed http://southasiaanalysis.org/. It was clearly a website that a typical Indian leftist would not even want to accidently visit. Until of course it suited their warped narrative as we saw recently. One of his articles was used to support clemency for Yakub Memon. However as we found out ourselves and also in the now well-read open letter. It clearly states the following:

But one common hypothesis put forward by many is that Yakub Memon surrendered to the Indian authorities, and then cooperated with the investigations. Plain lies. Late B Raman, one of India’s finest intelligence officers wrote this in his article:

He had come to Kathmandu secretly from Karachi to consult a relative and a lawyer on the advisability of some members of the Memon family, including himself, who felt uncomfortable with Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence, returning to India and surrendering to the Mumbai police. The relative and the lawyer advised him against surrender due to a fear that justice might not be done to them. They advised Yakub to go back to Karachi.
Before he could board the flight to Karachi, he was picked up by the Nepal police on suspicion, identified and rapidly moved to India.

This was yesterday confirmed on some news channels when they interviewed the Nepali police officer. He re-iterated that there was no deal and Yakub was fleeing to Karachi. Then why are our “Intelligentsia” hell bent on stating otherwise?

So it is clear that those who clearly did not give two hoots about this patriot are bending his words for their perverted end. If they really were aware of the intel provided by Late Mr. Raman, they would not even utter the term “Hindu Terror”. I will explain.

When it comes to supporting their “Hindu Terror” phenomenon, Indian liberals and Pakistanis use the Samjhauta Express bombings and Malegaon bombings. Late Mr. Raman wrote an article on the matter and surprisingly that is one of the articles which has disappeared from website. Of course the article can be found at various websites and I will leave it here for your perusal. The most important point is made in section 7 where it says the following:

Thus, according to American investigators the LET and Al Qaeda were responsible for the Samjauta Express blast and the HUJI for the Mecca Masjid blast.If the American investigators, who have better sources in Pakistan, are correct, how can our investigators claim that some arrested Hindus were responsible for these incidents?

If Mr. Raman was correct then the suspects Swami Aseemanand, Sadhvi Pragya, Sunil Joshi (now dead), Sandeep Dange, Lokesh Sharma and Ramchandra Kalasangra are innocent. So why are these poor souls languishing in jails?

Since Indian leftists are now the new supporters of Mr. Raman then why have they not taken up the case of Aseemanand, Sadhvi Pragya ( who was denied permission to attend her father’s funeral) et. al. whose innocence Mr. Raman believed in. If Mr. Raman is wrong then why have they not apologized for using his article for their sick end? We all know why. Indian leftists are a disease on the nation’s soul. I wish they would keep their self-loathing to themselves instead of perverting the name of a patriot who is not with us to defend his good name.

ARREST OF SOME HINDUS AS TERRORISTS: CURIOUSER & CURIOUSER
By B.Raman http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers40/paper3971.html August 7 2010.

Some curious and intriguing aspects of the recent allegations of our investigating agencies against some Hindus of involvement in acts of terrorism against Muslims need to be highlighted.

2. The first relates to the incendiary explosion in the Samjauta Express. The second relates to the explosions in the Mecca Masjid of Hyderabad. The "Hindu" of July 31,2010, reported as follows: " The National Investigation Agency's probe into the Samjauta Express blasts will cover links with the explosions in Malegaon, Ajmer Sharif and the Mecca Masjid in Hyderabad, Home Minister P.Chidambaram said here on Friday ( July 30).... Asked about Hindutva organisations being suspects in the Samjauta and other three blasts, he declined to speculate."If we could do that, why would we hand it over to the NIA? Since the Haryana Police has not been able to crack the case, with their consent, the case has been handed over to the NIA."..... The CPI (M) has opposed separate investigations and called for a co-ordinated probe. It also alleged that three persons arrested for the Ajmer Sharif dargah blast (2007) were linked to the Abhinav Bharat organisation, which is said to be behind the Malegaon blast (2008). Their involvement is also suspected in the Mecca Masjid blast (2007) as the SIM card found in Ajmer belonged to the same batch used to trigger the Hyderabad blast."

3.In a press note issued on July 1, 2009, the US Department of Treasury gave the personal particulars of four persons--- a Pashtun born in Afghanistan, two Punjabis and a fourth person of unclear ethnicity originating from Karachi----associated with the Lashkare-Toiba (LET), who were designated by the Department under Executive Order 13224 "as providing direct support to Al Qaeda and the LET and as facilitating terrorist attacks, including the July 2006 train bombing in Mumbai."

4. One Arif Qasmani of Karachi was specifically named by the Department as involed in the Mumbai suburban train blasts of July, 2006, and in the Samjautha Express blast of February, 2007. It said of him as follows: "Arif Qasmani is the chief coordinator for Lashkar-e Tayyiba's (LET) dealings with outside organizations and has provided significant support for LET terrorist operations. Qasmani has worked with LET to facilitate terrorist attacks, including the July 2006 train bombing in Mumbai, India, and the February 2007 Samjota Express bombing in Panipat, India. Qasmani conducted fundraising activities on behalf of LET in 2005 and utilized money that he received from Dawood Ibrahim, an Indian crime figure and terrorist supporter, to facilitate the July 2006 train bombing in Mumbai, India. Since 2001, Arif Qasmani has also provided financial and other support and services to al Qaida, including facilitating the movement of al Qaida leaders and personnel in and out of Afghanistan, the return of foreign fighters to their respective countries, and the provision of supplies and weapons. In return for Qasmani's support, al Qaida provided Qasmani with operatives to support the July 2006 train bombing in Mumbai, India, and the February 2007 Samjota Express bombing in Panipat, India. In 2005, Qasmani provided Taliban leaders with a safe haven and a means to smuggle personnel, equipment, and weapons into Afghanistan." ( http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/%5Cpapers33%5Cpaper3291.html )

5.Allegations have been made in India that some Hindus, who were arrested for their suspected involvement in the Ajmer Sharif blast, are also suspected of involvement in the Mecca Masjid blast of Hyderabad. On August 6,2010, the US State Department made public notifications designating the Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami (HUJI) of Pakistan as a Foreign Terrorist Organisation and Ilyas Kashmiri belonging to it as an international terrorist. Similar action has been taken on US advice by the anti-terrorism sanctions committee of the UN Security Council the same day.

6. Reporting on these notifications, Mr.Peter Fowler, an American journalist, says as follows: "HUJI has carried out a number of terrorist attacks. In March 2006, HUJI was responsible for the suicide bombing of the U.S. Consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, which killed four people and injured 48 others. HUJI is also responsible for terrorist attacks in India including the May 2007 Hyderabad mosque attack, which killed 16 and injured 40, and the March 2007 Varanasi attack, which killed 25 and injured 100." (http://www.newsroomamerica.com/story/41551/us_targets_terrorist_organization_operating_in_india_and_pakistan.html )

7. Thus, according to American investigators the LET and Al Qaeda were responsible for the Samjauta Express blast and the HUJI for the Mecca Masjid blast.If the American investigators, who have better sources in Pakistan, are correct, how can our investigators claim that some arrested Hindus were responsible for these incidents? Justice and fairplay demand a thorough investigation into the two different versions that have emerged from Indian and American investigators. While the American investigators have blamed the LET, Al Qaeda and the HUJI, Indian investigators have blamed the Abhinav Bharat. Both cannot be correct.

( The writer is Additional Secretary (retd), Cabinet Secretariat, Govt. of India, New Delhi, and, presently, Director, Institute For Topical Studies, Chennai, and Associate of the Chennai Centre For China Studies. E-mail: seventyone2@gmail.com )

The B Raman article was saved at many sites. One of them is: http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2010/08/b-raman-arrest-of-hindus-as-terrorists.html